WCK Lord Oxenburgh is getting destroyed in hearings examining his review of UEA and Phil Jones. This farce will open up a whole new can of worms in the ongoing "Climategate" scandal. It has emerged that it is unlikely that Keith Briffa or anyone else would be able to reproduce Briffa's proxy work that was used in the "Hockey Stick". This is looking more like fraud in an attempt to get rid of the MWP in order to exaggerate recent warming that is looking to be influenced more by natural causes rather than MM CO2 every year. Get ready for the cold wave as the PDO is shifting and we are being hit with a severe La Nina.

Expect more acts of craziness from eco-theists and a ramp up of the "end of days" for mankind nonsense.


WCK It turns out that the alarmist scientist/activists lied by exaggerating ice melt by 100%. Does that qualify as a hoax? It also turns out sea level rise has been exaggerated and is rising at a rate of seven inches per century. Be sure to tell your kids that Manbearpig Gore was only off by 19 feet 5 inches. Accumulated Cyclone Energy is at the lowest level in 30 years and oceans, as measured in joules, have been cooling since 2002. Arctic found to be ice free only 7,000 years ago. It sure seems based on real world measurements that all warming is due to natural variation as expected post-LIA.


stop smoking pot Anon said
"in case you did not know, a lot of changes have occurred in politics since 60 years ago. "

really? you could have fooled me with the last election


stop smoking pot Anon, Hitler studied Marxism
He himself when discussing the Communists in Russia whom we did not like their implementation of Marxism Said of them Why Socialize Building when I can Socialize People"

He also implemented environmentalism as a way to breakdown the individual into see the earth and the state as more important than the self.
I bet he hated CO2.


Anonymous The nazi's probably called themselves a socialist party as part of the hoax that they perpetrated on the German people to gain their trust. it's like saying "progressive conservative" when in fact they are regressive in their ideologies and strategies. when you reach the extreme right, AND the extreme left political ideologies, you end up with less rights for the people. Facism - hitler (far right) = dictatorship communism (far left)= collectivism (the rights of the country over the rights of the individual) both soviet russia and nazi germany were extremely nationalistic, but they were on opposite sides of the pollitical spectrum. they both took away rights of the idividual. stop trying to re-write history to match your goals.


Anonymous fascism is on the right side of the political spectrum....that is the opposite side from left leaning liberals. besides, modern day liberals are very much in the center. they are not social democrats and are very far from communism. in case you did not know, a lot of changes have occurred in politics since 60 years ago.




stop smoking pot Hey now! "H. was a Socialist" He was not right wing...
left equals totalitarian Govt.
Centrist equals
limited Govt.
Right equals,
No Govt./ anarchy.

That's the true break down


WCK I thought everyone already knew that the modern environmental movement had its roots in the "Green Wing" of the Nazi Party.



It is easy enough to visit CPUSA to learn that the majority of the Progressive's ideas came from Communism.




Hitler was a socialist To the last Anonymous: Have you heard of the National Socialist German Workers' Party (National-Sozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei--NSDAP)? That was Hitler's political party. They were known as the Nazis.

During the war Hitler suspended many "rights", as do most governments during time of war. But Hitler was a right wing socialist and his beliefs were much the same as that of the modern day socialist liberals.

Its funny that Hitler came to power due to the hard economic times following the depression. Using fear and promises of a better life for the people of Germany. Much the same thing as "hope and change" Obama. Hitler blamed the Jews, Obama blames the Christians. Scary.


stop smoking pot Liberal is a stolen word by the left just as progressive is a stolen word by the left, on the left you have the various forms of Marxism, they are socialists, fascists, nazis, communists, then the happy words the try to hide behind, Liberal, Progressive, Social Democrats,
Progressive Democrats,
Democrats, last but not least,
Environmentalist.


Anonymous you are a moronic canadian. you can find history books in canada, can't you?

real ones! open a text book and stop reading your favorite conspiracy theory websites.


Anonymous in which bogus science literature did you obtain this uncommon knowledge from?

since when is the fascist Hitler a liberal???

since when are communists like mao and stalin liberals?

you don't have a clue on this earth about politics.

you've been brainwashed into thinking that anyone who is not on the extreme American flag waving right wing is out to get you! lol

wow. unbelievable.


hitler a liberal?????? you really don't have a clue about politics or science.

wow. I've never heard anyone get political ideologies so screwed up.



RGB Anon:
Maxing out @ 60 PPM is pretty much common knowledge. What part of quantum physics am i violating? As I asked before, how does AGW fit into the medieval warming period? I'll answer, it doesn't. Therefore it had to be something else. Right. Do you follow? Something like the sun and/or storms thereon, cosmic rays, etc. CO2 had nothing to do with it. Period. End of story. The only constant in nature is change. Live with it.


RGB Anon:
Maybe you should read some history, Stalin, Mao, Hitler 150 million plus. Cambodia, Ukraine et al. Damn you don't know anything - must be an art's student. Keep reading fiction. By the way, I'm a Canadian, moron.


Anonymous during which war did these supposed liberals murder 150 people? wow, you must be from the US. I've never heard such a screwed up sense of history in my life.


Anonymous If there is no greenhouse effect, and water vapor, co2, methane and other greenhouse gasses don't warm up the atmosphere, then why isn't the earth the same temperature as space???

I'd love to hear you explain that one!


Anonymous the effects of co2 max out? that goes against physics. Are you trying to re-write the laws of thermal dynamics and quantum physics?

we all know that the earth has been warmer and cooler in the past. that does not disprove the physics of thermal dynamics.

you should write a book about everything you know about thermal dynamics. It would be a short and hysterical read.

where do you come up with this nonsense?


Anonymous ddt hoax? so you think ddt is not an extremely toxic substance?

are you willing to bet your life on that? why don't you go bathe in ddt to see what occurs?


RGB Anon:
The left murdered, it is estimated, over 150 million people last century. That's not counting the millions who died from malaria due to the DDT hoax. The effects of CO2 max out at 60 PPM, which we have been over for centuries. Please explain AGW back in the medieval times when it was warmer then than it is now.


stop smoking pot How much is to much Anon??
all the CO2 makes up only 1 10th of 1 percent of our total atmosphere, man made CO2, that "the evil CO2" according to you makes up only 1 20th of that!!
The amount of CO2 and radiation you warmist keep hanging on to up in the stratosphere is crazy, that's 20 miles up and then you keep telling me that radiation comes back down through the commercial air traffic at 35,000 feet that happens to be around minus 45 degrees F.!!

And still has the ability to warm up the planet??


R.Danneskjöld Anonymous (or any other alarmist): So if we keep adding CO2 to the atmosphere the world will continue to warm? Regardless of how much CO2 we add?


stop smoking pot Ha!

I have a blackberry
and haven't been to Disney for 40 years... Unlike
err and anon, who obviously go every DAY!


Anonymous and gore has nothing to do the the science of global warming. He did not make up the physics that occurs when we add pollution to this world.

once again, you confuse science with politics.

co2 absorbs radiation. more co2 creates a warmer environment. We have the technology to measure the difference between naturally occurring co2 and co2 induced by man. we have measured it. we know what man has caused and what we have not. and of course we continue to learn more. but the more we learn, the more we find the science to say the same thing.


Anonymous to say that terrorists get support from liberal minded Americans is a complete lie. you obviously don't have a clue what liberals value or support. it is not killing innocent people, that is for sure.




err on the good won't someof your saudi backers kick in?
saudi's back other terrorist